finding family on the dawes rolls is hard, because a lot of names you may have pop up, but cherokee nation only accepts names between their 7 year requirement and they had to be living in OK . Remember to check the name spelling and include any additional information you have. Chief Doublehead was my partner's 6 great grandfather and his daughter Cornblossom my partner's 5th great grandmother. Name: Fred Buckner, Phone number: (870) 257-5707, State: AR, City: Cherokee Village, Zip Code: 72529 and more information The senior Watts, father of Young Tassell, served as the official British government Indian interpreter for the area until his death in 1779. So I guess we are running into some "cousins" here. Watts, was then living again in the Overhill area. He served as a chief of the Lower Cherokee until his death in 1802. I have relatives on the Dawes rolls. The family unit is the most important organization in time and eternity. Please just so I can show people I know working on information of the Moytoy and between Moytoy having children. according to the information in the tree Sookie Grass Hopper Moytoy was the mother of Elizabeth and had married William David McDaniel. ELIZABETH WATTS was born in 1751, at birth place, Alabama, to Chief John Trader Crunk Watts Watts (born Watts Cherokee) and WURTAGUA GI-YO-STI-KO-YO-HE Watts Cherokee (born Bird Clan). His user name on Ancestry.com was Tahlequah. 124 confirmed names, back to chief moytoy yet not accepted.if you have anything to help you can email me at karynbishof10@gmail.com, Hello, (very distant) cousin. And all the deuce dents on both Sides the McGees and Vann was denided clames. this Thomas Pasmere Corn Planter Carpenter character is a mad up fictional and fraudulent character based on nothing but lies. Also related to Pocahontas. Although my family moved to Texas 30 yrs. Called Wahli by many confused researchers, Mother Vann was Joseph Vann's wife, but was born a Vann herself. Easy, he was selling off Cherokee lands. It is wonderful , because I have had an Indian Fedish ,for a Long time. ronda essary, I am not sure what you mean how far back.? Along the way, the group was attacked by a militant group of frontiersmen during a stop at the Overhill town of Coyatee. Vann grabbed one small boy and pulled him onto his saddle, but Doublehead killed the boy with an axe. Sharon, I believe the way you do. I hope you are wrong!! He is suppose to be called "The End Of The Trail". What do you know about that identity, Vann? The last relative I have who was on the last rolls was David Hadley born in 1900 in the Cherokee Nation. Yes, I'm one of "those" Vanns (documented, BTW). Yes, there is a lot of conflicting information out there. I am from England, and have Native American Ancestry, I have tested with Ancestry, 23andme, and FTDNA My half second cousin has also tested his DNA we share a mutual Great grandmother. It sad because all the info is there. Born in Tasagi Town, Cherokee, Alabama, USA on 1750 to Chief John Trader Watts Sr became Principal Chief after Doublehead died and Chief Tarchee "The Long Warrior" of Tellico "Great Eagle" Of the Bird Clan. Happy Hunting, Thanks. You need to sort out The Boot from Shoeboots. Redbird Sixkiller. He held a prominent position among the Cherokee, and held the hereditary title Ama Matai (From the French matai and Cherokee ama--water), which meant "Water Conjurer." this probably makes us distant cousins ronda essary. Beginning in 2002, she studied music at the Royal College of Music with Lillian Watson. I have that she was of the Deer Clan and that she married John Phillip Lightfoot {1725-1780}. Not even from my documented Chambers line because my GGrandFather refused to sign up on the Dawes, even though my GGrandMother Ada B Allen spoke for him in her Dawes packet. I have an early american ancestor named Comfort and one named Gladness, as well as one name Plenty. Elizabeth Judd was the daugther of Rowland Judd and Robin Moytoy/Cherokee. William is a well-documented Virginian, DAR patriot # A033306, who left his property to his wife Elizabeth and sons including Moses (will is transcribed on his Wikitree profile). The research on this blog and on Ancestry.com is for me, my children, my grandchildren, future generations and anyone else who is interested. I just discovered from ancestry.com that I am also a direct descendant of Amatoya Moytoy. Elizabeth Watts Red Paint Clan Cherokee passed away on 1795 in St Joseph River, Crow Creek Settlement, Arkansas. With all this he managed to double the number of slaves that he owned (over 200) and he relocated all of them west during the Trail of Tears via riverboats. Sharon Starr would you please send me what you got so I can put it in my records, pleaseAt my email, starrbwllababby@yahoo.com. The average property on Woods Rd was built in 1955 with an average home value of $97,277. Dave C Essary,his son,and Sarah Carter Essary reared my grandmother Minnie Malone (Essary), IN MY RECORDS SHE IS MARRIED T WILLIAM MCDANIEL DAUGHTER MARY MCDANIEL FATHER KANA-GATOGAWAS ESSARY FROM ANOTHER MARRIAGE? His pension application (images on Fold3 at. ) Find others researching your family tree. I don't know how many times I heard her say she wished she'd never told me. For a complete explanation, go to http://www.parkeradkins.wordpress.com, this is very interesting.i have been researching my family on ancestry.com and as i have always known i was of indian descent, i just recently discovered i am related to amatoyoa moytoy,ka na fire, sookie ?, i have not been able to trace back any further,but maybe someone out there can be of assistance. Tharp Son marries an Allen. I am a citizen of the Cherokee Nation of Oklahoma. Elizabeth. He and Elizabeth had five children, William Jr., Moses, Sally, Edward, and a brother name unknown, who was killed by Indians in 1777 while scouting for the Militia in Powells Valley There is nothing in any records to suggest that William ever lived anywhere except Virginia or had any wives other than Elizabeth. However, after the settlers had walked out, Doublehead's group and his Muscogee allies attacked and killed them. Watts Red Paint Clan Cherokee. -KARYN BISHOFALSO DO ANY OF THESE NAMES LINE UP WITH YOURS?WHICH NAME DID YOU OBTAIN ENROLLMENT FROMchief murmuring ripplechief morning rippleshawandochief dancing streamchief running stream/ powhatan (the chief powhatan)scent flowermorning scent flower- paupauwiskenonomatatiske winuskewahunsonocockvirginia metis powhatanthomas munsawghewinanuske nonomaopechancanoughnamontackpride chalakahatha cornstalktaminad munsawghelocha quatsy nancy of tellicothomas pasmere corn planter carpenteramatoya moytoy (amadoya) (ama edohi) trader tom carpenterkana-gatoga moytoy- old hop/ stalking turkeysu-gi sookie moytoyanigatagewi moytoyamadoyamadoni moytoysu-gi sallie/sally grannie/granny grasshopperanuwagi peggy moytoycornelius doughertyjames doughertyelizabeth doughertynathan lawsonsampson david lawsongeorge w lawsonmary mahala j lawsoneverette s baldwin (my grandfather)beverly baldwin-bishof (my mom)karyn bishof (me), MARY MCDANIEL IS DAUGHTER OF WILLIAM MCDANIEL AND SU-GI. Afterward, the group made a semi-permanent camp along Flint Creek (in the area of the future Unicoi County, Tennessee), harassing, raiding, and attacking white settlers in the surrounding countryside. I believe that Mary's mixed blood mother was descended from Moytoy, if not, I have the Bernard and Charles Hughes lineage - Bernard, a white trader and Charles his mixed blood son. 4387482@gmail.com I am searching for a legit family tree for Wut-teh or Wurteh Watts, mother to Sequoyah. My father's family can be tranced back to Maryland and in documents it said that one of the sons had married an Indian woman and I didn't think anything about it at the time until I saw the leaf on Prudence which opened up all the records showing she was a full Cherokee Indian and her father and so on. LDS records gives an Elizabeth Lewis as a wife of a John Benge. The cherokee kings and chiefs and Headmen were generally related in some way in cherokee or other tribes kings and leaders. Robert Due [[Due-74]]: No source is listed for this claim. Vann . I share your first few ancestors! And they were born before registration so difficult. Daniel Dodson Watson (alias "Watts") was my great, great grandmother, Sarah Ellen (Watson)Akins' older brother; they were two of the children of Eli and Rebecca Watson (alias "Watts")who came to Alabama with Eli's parents, John & Mahala (Long) Watson in the 1830's from North Carolina. US government required a person to "validate" their "native claim", first, as a way of counting the population which they were removing from native soils, and, then, to "prove" their right to receive federal dollars for support. Other than Cheerokee chief? Can be reach at james.swords@cox.netYour most Humble & Obt. Could Prachy also have been Captain George Parris. A deposition from Trader Robert Due/Dews from 1777 stated that Old Tassel was the uncle of John Watts Young Tassel. ( Colonial and State Records of North Carolina, Volume 22, Pages 995-1005, Deposition of Robert Dews concerning relations with Native Americans, January 22, 1777. I have information back to my great great grandmother and found her parents names once but haven't been able to find them since but the line went back to Pidgeon of Tellico and further back to Motoy(s). He became war council head, or "skiagusta," of the Lower Cherokee.[3]. This Jim White is a certifiable nut who sells fantasy genealogies on Lulu. Watts, Elizabeth. Robert Due [[Due-74]]: No source is listed for this claim. My family has known for some time and have searched to find our ancestors. Help us find our relatives and know what being Cherokee means. Call us at (858) 263-7716. This put the Cherokee closer to their Muscogee allies while shielding them from the westward expansion of the new United States. Malachi was born in 1813 in Georgia and died in 1864 in Cane Hill, Arkansas. I thought Chief Amatoya Moytoy was/is a full blood Cherokee. Gathered from those who lived during the same time period, were born in the same place, or who have a family name in common. su-gi sookie moytoy is my 7th great grandmotherkana-gatoga moytoy- old hop/ stalking turkey, if I am remembering correctly was su-gi's Father. Research Research Research. We never knew where my ggrandfather came from, but thanks to Ancestry.com, I now know that his ggrandmother was Cornblossom, daughter or Doublehead. In reply to: Re: Daniel D. Watts - AL b. abt. I am surprised that so many people are so negative. The same Joseph Vann who Cheucunsene (Dragging Canoe) vowed to kill if he ever stepped foot in Cherokee lands again. Due was a white trader who had a daughter named Jennie with a Cherokee woman named Elizabeth Emory. I've been researching the Moytoy line for some time. cariewestbrook@live.com, Hi Carie, My name I Sheila King. Could we be related? I love this quote fromJim Pell: Principal Chief of the North Alabama Cherokee Tribe "There is no such thing as 'part-Cherokee.' It show how many gens back we are related. This website is a total fraud witn no proofs or substantial evidence. My 5th great grandmother was Robin Joyce Moytoy " Raven" daugther of Chief Standing Turkey Moytoy Most beloved of the Cherokees Boen in 1704. in TN. Historically, surnames evolved as a way to sort people into groups - by occupation, place of origin, clan affiliation, patronage, parentage, adoption, and even physical characteristics (like red hair). Yeah. ago, we are orignially from the Pulaski/Wayne Co. Kentucky area. I seem to have inherited slightly more Native American than he has. I was so excited when I saw my mom, that was the first thing I told her and she blurted out well you are on my side too. thanks, KAYLIN,MARY MCDANIEL AND CATHERINE MCDANIEL WERE SISTERSMY LINEAGE GOES DOWN FROM MOYTOY TO OLD HOP TO SUGI/ GRANNIE HOPPER, TO MARY MCDANIEL, TO ELIZ. More About WURTEH WATTS: Blood: Half Blood Cherokee. As with most early Cherokee women she is only described in terms of her relationship to others. John Benge [[Benge-104]]: John Benge was a white trader who lived in the Cherokee Nation most of his adult life. 3. If you have direct family members listed on The Dawes Rolls would that confirm blood lines? Don't have a clue what all that means? I have decided to treat my known ancestors of mixed and full blood with a 'this is what is possible' and not a definite 'this is how it is'. . Please email me is any of u share a connection hhokomo@aol.com. I would appreciate any information about this couple. On the way, the Cherokee leaders were discussing among themselves whether to kill all the residents of the settlement, or just the men. I look forward to your textthank you so much and good luck to you all who are on a quest for documenting facts. She married Parker Vincent Adkins. Mahaley Parris #1225 on the Dawes Rolls. Im now wanting to enroll. William F. Dorton born 1750 married Elizabeth Watts. I can see why but I totally look Indian and am Cherokee, Choctaw, Shawnee. DNA can not tell you what tribe you are from. Many researchers believe Parker Adkins only had 2 children with Bluesky, Littleberry and Charity. Howa, i am curious as to your line of ancestry that helped you become recornized. Yes it would. I am related to Amatoya through his son, Old Hop, Sookie Hopper, Catherine McDaniel, Mary Elvira Hensley, Mary Elvira Ward, to Lille Belle Holland, who is my 3rd great grandmother! I really need to know who they were! She is also said to have been the mother of George Gist, known by his Cherokee name, "Sequoyah", who is credited as creating the Cherokee alphabet and writing system. I am a Tribal Citizen of The Cherokee Nation. william r kirkland(part shawnee)I am proud of my new found heritage. I am related through Nanya'hi and her line. I have sent a message to the man that seems to have been the first to add this information to his tree as everyone after him, was traced back to him. Now I had the surname Moytoy I decided to check for matches on Ancestry and found several all connected to Rainmaker Moytoy. Hello family! 4. I came across the name Ga Ho Ga, who was born about 1730 in Deer, Newton County, Arkansas and died about 1790 in Rome, Floyd County, Georgia. I have traced my grandmother Claudia peddycoart to Elizabeth Ravin hop moytoy. Michael Webert (R-Marshall) Del. John's father was Yell Clement Ward. But you wouldn't know nothing about that, would you. Amazed (not really) at the numbers of people who post but have no clue about the lack of documentation for Moytoy (more than one alleged) and any possible documented living descendants. Elizabeth was Cherokee. Her net worth has been growing significantly in 2021-2022. She then 'married' John Amory, a White trader, and when he died, and she left for England with the Cherokee contingent, she left their son with his English wife, who raised him. I believe that could be possible. . Find Elizabeth Watts's phone number, address, and email on Spokeo, the leading people search directory for contact information and public records. Moore, John Trotwood and Austin P. Foster. Husband's Name: William Pleasant WATTS (AFN:1T6C-XW9) Born: Abt 1815/1820: Place: Cherokee Nation, East, Native America: Married: Abt 1830: Place: Cherokee Nation . **Also known as Sally, Sookie, and Granny Hopper. She married Thomas Lawson Kendrick on Oct 17, 1850 in Cherokee, North Carolina. My 5 ggrma is on the Drennen Roll, Martha Whiting. The name Pride is also consistant with many early american names such as Loving, Charity, Comfort, Patience, Simplicity, Mercy, Joy etc. As my Great grandmother had Irish Parents who came to Liverpool, England at the time of the Famine. 1,645 Followers, 658 Following, 578 Posts - See Instagram photos and videos from Elizabeth Watts Schrack (@elizabethwatts5) elizabethwatts5. Both are on the Dawes Final Rolls out of Oklahoma. Remember the Slave Revolt? Phil T. PDT928@gmail.com. James Vann, William Springston, John Shepherd and Edward Adair: . However, she might be in her 30's. Have latest post on thejamesscrolls.V/R,Jim. Find Elizabeth Watts's phone number, address, and email on Spokeo, the leading people search directory for contact information and public records. She graduated in 2005 with distinction . John Watts 1746-1808 was the "mixed-blood", or mixed-race son of British trader John Watts 1704-1779 and a Cherokee mother, Oousta White Owl Carpenter 1722-1768. I am on Ancestry.com. Remember the sons of Dragging Canoe's younger brother Shoeboots? Pamelia Whaley, Nannie Foster nee Foreman and Elizabeth Proctor nee Foreman *. But Cornblossom is one of those internet myths. Hello, I too am descended from Moytoy then down through Nancy Wardto Nancy Dial. Or any of his descendants? people.com. Dave C Essary his son reared my great grand mother Emmerline Emily Carter. 658 following. Regardez le Salaire Mensuel de Jeep Grand Cherokee Occasion Maroc en temps rel. Mary Parris Palone was born in Georgia in 1841 and died in Westville, Oklahoma, in 1921 and is buried at the Old Baptist Mission Cemetery there, right across the road from the church (where I was married in 1984). I couldn't help but notice that Amotoya's wife and me had the same name.. That's why you need to rely on primary reccords in places like the National Archives. If you could send my a message on my face book page or an email I would appreciate it. John Watts 1746-1808 was the "mixed-blood", or mixed-race son of British trader John Watts 1704-1779 and a Cherokee mother, Oousta White Owl Carpenter 1722-1768. 4241 Jutland Dr #202, San Diego, CA 92117. I've found so much information on his descendants, just not his ancestors! He was known as a trader in interpreter. 1725 in NC; died 1790 in Russell Co., VA.. . Thanks, William David McDaniel is one of my great grandfathers.email me with your information at cymayes46@gmail.com. So none of this can be proven or dis-proven and anyone who wants to verify their link to the Cherokee needs to do so for present day and post Sequoyah but their Colonial history is lost to the sands of time. How they were excluded from the Nation because they were black? All anyone may find from these DNA tests are other people who share some DNA markers, often third, fourth cousins. Elizabeth Watts, also known as "Wurte" Watts, was the supposed mixed-blood daughter of John Watts, a British government interpreter [known as "Old Forked Tongue Watts"], who died in 1770. Query: My great great grandmother, Elizabeth Floyd, married a Cherokee man, name unknown. Read Scott's orders. As for Corn Blossom GAH wholly fictional. Only original work can be copyrighted. The emigrants who established our first colonies had a tough go. is there a free place to search dawes rolls? -Heather. I matched someone who has the Essary Surname. I am descended from Ann Dabbs (maiden name: Watts and born 1773) who was the daughter of Malachi (Unacata or "White Man Killer" Watts (born around 1751-1754). With a name like Pride, which is english, it would seem that Thomas Carpenter was not the only white to intermarry at this time. Rich Joe, my g-uncle, was killed in 1844 when his steamboat exploded near Louusville. I am realated to MoyToy through .. Amotoya of Tellico Moytoy I Supreme Chief A-ma'-he-ta-i Moytoy Kanagatoga Moytoy Sookie Hopper then the McDaniel line to Cummings. My gggg grandfather is Old Hop-Standing Turkey- Kanagatuckco. There is a whole lot of those kind of things that get picked up & repeated over & over again. 1718, Walker, AL-d. 1770, Bladen, NC) was 'born Cherokee' I am also interested in getting that proof. She was born in 1859, in the Canadian District of the Cherokee Nation and is a full-blood Cherokee Indian. At about this time, Watts moved his base of operations to Willstown (Cherokee town), in what is now Alabama. He was a British interpreter for the Cherokees at Fort Loudoun (S.C.) in 1758 and at Augusta in 1763, and continued to fill that position at the 1770 treaty . My research has shown that Old hop Was considered cherokee his grandfather Thomas Corn planter Carpenter married a Shawnee woman who was adopted into the Cherokee. Elizabeth Watts's income source is mostly from being a successful . No matter the racial or ethnic composition of someone who originated from outside the Clans, if they married a Cherokee, they were considered as full-blood by the Nation. Oh Gee Mike .. Rebecca Goode Rebecca E Hensley Rebecca Watts Rebecca Elizabeth Watts Rebecca E Watts Becky Goode Rebecca Hensley Becky E Goode Relatives: Mother, father, . Thomas 'married' the mixed blood daughter of Col. James Moore, SC Gov, and when he died, Mary Moore Ayres, his wife, gave their son to the White half brother, John Ayres. It sounds as if intermarriage began so early, it would be difficult to ever establish a true degree of Indian blood. We were all born in Oklahoma and are also Scottish, being Duncan on both sides of my mothers family. SOOKIE SUSANNAH Su'Gi "GRASSHOPPER" Moytoy is my 5th great grandmother on the opposite side of my family. What a beautiful, interesting and insightful article! Wurteh "Betsy" Watts,was the mother of Chief John Jolly, Chief Robert Benge, Tahlonteeskee Bloody Fellow and Sequoyah. She married William David MC Daniel in 1752. She was the sister of John Watts, Cherokee Chief, also known as "Young Tassel". My tree also indicates that I'm descended from Powhatan & Moytoyhowever, I'm NOT interested in chasing that proof. The senior Watts, father of Young Tassell, served as the official British government Indian interpreter for the area until his death in 1779. James Vann was shot and killed in 1809 by his former friend Saunders for another reason. Surnames Bertholf, Riley, Priber. To Know that they are a part of my life, is so Great. You should probably not waste a lot of time trying to confirm what he claims, since it's probably either fake or imaginary. She died a few days after giving birth to their only daughter, Sarah Elizabeth Kendrick. Evans, E. Raymond. They had 11 children: Aley Cherokee Indian Evans (born Watts), Elizabeth WATTS and 9 other children. There is ZERO documentation for this man. I am a descendant of MoytoyI through his granddaught BlueSky Cornstalk who was Grandadughter of Amatoy's son Amatoy of Tellico. Although Watts withdrew from the Overhill Towns along with Dragging Canoe's band, at first he was minimally involved in the raiding they made against American settlers during and after the Revolutionary War. What a tragidy it would be if all those people believing to have these descendents were all mislead. some were shawnee married in to cherokee, some were pamunkey/ powhatan dwindling down into cherokee.chief murmuring ripplechief morning rippleshawandochief dancing streamchief running stream/ powhatan (the chief powhatan)scent flowermorning scent flower- paupauwiskenonomatatiske winuskewahunsonocockvirginia metis powhatanthomas munsawghewinanuske nonomaopechancanoughnamontackpride chalakahatha cornstalktaminad munsawghelocha quatsy nancy of tellicothomas pasmere corn planter carpenteramatoya moytoy (amadoya) (ama edohi) trader tom carpenterkana-gatoga moytoy- old hop/ stalking turkeysu-gi sookie moytoyanigatagewi moytoyamadoyamadoni moytoysu-gi sallie/sally grannie/granny grasshopperanuwagi peggy moytoycornelius doughertyjames doughertyelizabeth doughertynathan lawsonsampson david lawsongeorge w lawsonmary mahala j lawsoneverette s baldwin (my grandfather)beverly baldwin-bishof (my mom)karyn bishof (me)if any of you have become recognized using any of these names, please share with me on how you did so as I have come to a brick wall. Starting as a child at the Anthony School and Forest Park, and lacing in Lorene Lloyd McAfee Ballet, she followed through Pulaski Heights School and Hall High . Can you please tell me, was Amatoya Moytoy Chief Doublehead's grandfather? He and Elizabeth had five children, William Jr., Moses, Sally, Edward, and a brother name unknown, who was killed by Indians in 1777 while scouting for the Militia in Powells Valley There is nothing in any records to suggest that William ever lived anywhere except Virginia or had any wives other than Elizabeth. I do not know to put this together to prove it. They run a great organization called The Rainbow House. The Booker line did intermarry with Cherokee. I have 124 names on the rolls between guion miller and dawes (CN and EB). thanks again. Blending a great . I am related to may of you! General Winfield Scott orders the Cherokee people not to resist the removal order. What is this website? They captured and burned Gillespie's Station, killing its defenders and taking several prisoners. Thanks for further assisting the Corruption of the Truth by posting Blatant lies pertaining to NOT MOYTOY, NO MOYTOY never existed &c.Ani'-Yun'wi ya' a'na's'gv'ti Toochlar hi'ge ani go'la da'gah' da - Dagulaku, My name is Carie Adkins Westbrook. How could this be if these people above say his father is/was from England? My 9th great grandfather was Amatoya Moytoy spm of Thomas cornplanter Carpenter and Pride Shawnee.She was the daugther of Chief Osconacanough. LDS microfiche #6016960-Volume 95. Who are those in your direct Vann line back to her? Wren Williams (R-Stuart) Del. I believe William should be detached from Wurteh. Eastern Band of Cherokee Indians (1824-present), Cherokee Nation in Indian Territory (18391907), United Keetoowah Band of Cherokee Indians (1939present), This page was last edited on 30 December 2022, at 05:30. Thanks Amanda I appreciate your comments. I am of Moytoy decent on my mother's father's side. There is a Heather comment, which doesn't need any cleaning up as far as I am concerned. There they rebuilt a replica of his Georgia Mansion for him.It's often said that Cherokee owned slaves but the truth is it was really only the Vann, Ross, Watts, Ridge, and a couple other families who owned all of the slaves. What is so astonishing is that my mother is descended from Mary Moore Ayres and John Amory while my father is descended from Mary and Thomas Ayres! My Grandmother's is named Ethel May (Carpenter ) Fisher . Watts. I would love to maybe form a group of us and somehow formulate a more accurate tree with these common ancestors. James Vann somehow managed to acquire numerous ferries and steamboats, vast acreage of lands, and over 100 slaves. there are more but this seems like the most likely common to be used, and its what you mentioned as well. !I am LowreyMajor George Lowrey & Lucy Benge are where my family take off begins where we are relatedOh how our ancestors would love to know we are all here, that they are here in usShelly in California. Elizabeth Watts (born 1979) is an English operatic soprano. Be proud of your real ancestors, not the ones you "feel in your hearts.". I can see where this could become addictive! Son Moses is also a well documented Revolutionary War soldier DAR #A033304, born in Virginia in 1762. Have you found a role number yet? The direct descendant is Tame Doe Moytoy. I would think that would be a HUGE fraud on the Ancestry.Com people, Thank you so much. [1] Watts' parents resided in the Overhill Towns along the Little Tennessee River. 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